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They were actually cited in a brief opposing same sex marriage. Now we are supposed to have sympathy for them. Where was their sympathy for the LGBT community those 5 years? What do you mean by they allowed it? If someone used their words and contorted them to their own agenda, why does that automatically make them agree with the contortion?

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The next step for you is not to spout off ugly ignorance, but to try to understand. Such as four beautiful daughters. Would you tell those little girls that their mother wasted lxdies years bearing and rearing and loving ponely They say there is no cure for stupid, but I believe there is a cure for meanness; however, it might require fixing what is broken lonelh you.

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I see vulnerability, heartfelt open honesty about their challenges, suffering, and what has led them to their decision.

Of course, a mixed-orientation marriage may be not only challenging but untenable for most, as Josh and Lolly have warned. Thank you for your beautifully written, honest post. Although never married, I am a gay man who used to believe the lies that were spoon-fed by the Mormon Church and through that awful, awful book the Miracle of Forgiveness.

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PS I am an active member for 56 years now and I am in complete disagreement to the way the church has responded to our LGBT brother and sisters. I continue to hope and pray everyday that hearts and minds will be open and inclusive and changes will come. Difficult, yes, but not harmful. The thing was Long Cambria lonely ladies Josh had never once looked at her with desire, not even at the beginning of their relationship, and never would — never could, because he is gay.

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I have no gay or same sex attraction. But, I would not do that because of my commitment lonel myself, to my wife, and to my God, and my desire to stay with my best female friend. There are many bisexual people in heterosexual relationships, such as myself. You may not be, of course, and how you choose to define your life and attraction is always going to be your choice. Sexy granny Arthur River I saw your post, and Long Cambria lonely ladies felt empathy, so I thought I would share.

Without planning to, Josh Long Cambria lonely ladies a man he has fallen head over heels for and he will no longer deny himself. The gay spouse without planning to gets their head turned by someone of the same sex and then it is bye-bye straight marriage, hello gay boyfriend.

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You sound like a sad, pathetic, bitter woman and I almost feel sorry for you. Perhaps you experienced this personally so therefore it must be the same for everyone else on the planet. It is intrinsically damaging for people who need romantic attachment to go without it, and have no hope for it. It wears at your mental health and well being. As Josh and Cambriaa have proven, relationships and especially marriages are about more than sex, about more than children, more than just platonically caring for someone.

It cannot be healthy if there is no real attraction there. They may be in denial, but they need to come out of that. God loves all His children. He gave each of us the precious gift of choice.

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I have two friends who have both struggled with alcoholism. While I am not saying this is the same thing as homosexual feelings and desires, it was something that, for them, seemed to be an innate desire-even longing. They both felt they had almost no control over the desire for alcohol. One overcome that years ago, through help from alcoholics anonymous, but says that desire still returns if she is not making a daily decision that she will not drink.

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And I must- and do- respect that right. What will make me happy after I leave this life is not necessarily what will make others happy. And so- we make our choices, even in the face of struggles to chose what God has outlined for becoming as He is, and He rewards us with a Kingdom where we will be able to experience happiness. To condemn others for their choice is not our right.

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Father Abraham was willing to sacrifice that thing he longed for very most in life- even his son. To be willing to sacrifice and consecrate all for God? Even, for the time being, the deepest longings of our heart? Am I just too cynical in this thinking because of my experiences? Aching for something God says we should not have, is not unique to gay people.

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Do you believe in a perfect, loving, all-knowing Creator? Would that Creator demand obedience to rules which cause such anguish and despair that many choose death rather than continue to suffer for decades? But each of you has your own gift from God; one has this gift, another has that. It is good for them to stay unmarried, as I do. If you intend to interpret scripture to support your opinion, it should be reasonable to take all interpretations into account.

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When I hear people talking about alcoholism, it resonates with how I feel. When I hear people talking about homosexuality, especially repressed homosexuality, it too resonates with how I feel. I can utterly sympathize with Josh. It is in this sense I am broken, but I trust that God can make me whole, in the next life if not in this. I do not feel the answer for me is to give into my desires, even if I can fantasize that I would feel not only gratified by doing so, but perhaps intimately fulfilled by pursuing a fluid, dynamic, polyamorous lifestyle.

And how would I know? I am grateful that we both realize that, while romance is a great thing in a marriage, is not a critical component or we likely would have divorced years ago; our love is enduring, but our romance comes and goes.

I wish Josh and Lolly the best and hope they find the temporal satisfaction they are looking for, but I am ever so saddened to read of this. I will add, though, that for those of us who struggle with addiction, The Miracle of Forgiveness is an exceptionally unhelpful book.

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